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Poll: Biden Expands Lead; A Third Of Country Says It Won't Get Vaccinated

Aug 14, 2020
Originally published on August 14, 2020 10:40 am

Democrat Joe Biden's lead has expanded to double-digits against President Trump in the presidential election, an NPR/PBS NewsHour/Marist poll finds. Biden now leads Trump 53% to 42%, up from an 8-point advantage at the end of June.

The change comes as 71% of Americans now see the coronavirus as a real threat, up significantly over the last several months, as more than 167,000 Americans have died and more than 5 million have become infected with the virus, as of Friday.

And yet, more than a third of Americans (35%) say they won't get vaccinated when a vaccine comes available; 60% say they will. There are huge splits by education and party on this. Those with college degrees are 19 points more likely to get vaccinated than those without (72% to 53%), and Democrats are 23 points more likely than Republicans (71% to 48%).

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(Just 52% had said they would get vaccinated for H1N1 in 2009 in the survey, but H1N1 was far less deadly and did not have the same far-reaching impact on the American economy and society.)

Dr. Anthony Fauci, head of the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases, has said he is concerned about the unwarranted vaccine skepticism in some of the country and how that could slow overcoming the virus.

"We have to admit and realize that there is an anti-vax movement that we have had to struggle with in this country," Fauci told the PBS NewsHour last month. "And I believe the solution to that would be community engagement ... because it could be lifesaving, and it certainly would be the solution to this terrible pandemic."

The poll shows that experts like Fauci have some leverage in making the case to the public. Three-quarters of Americans (75%) say they trust the information they hear from public health experts a great deal or a good amount. State and local officials also fare well, with 62% of Americans saying they trust what they hear from those officials.

President Trump, whose approval rating has dipped to 39% in this survey, is seen as an unreliable source of information on the pandemic. Just 31% say they can trust the information coming from the president. Less than half — 46% — say they trust what they hear from news media on it.

On the issues, Trump trails Biden substantially on who is seen as better to handle coronavirus or race relations. Biden has a 53% to 37% lead on handling coronavirus and an even wider 58% to 34% advantage on handling race relations.

Trump retains a narrow, 47% to 45% edge on the economy, but that has narrowed since March when Trump had a clear 50% to 42% lead on the question in an ABC/Washington Post poll.

All of that helps explain Biden's expanded lead and where the vote is coming from. Biden has now reached a majority (52%) with independents and leads Trump with this crucial group by 16 percentage points.

Biden's advantages

Biden also has significant advantages with Black voters, young voters, whites with a college degree and suburban voters. Trump draws his strongest support from white evangelical Christians, whites without a college degree and those who live in rural areas.

Trump has seen his advantages with other key groups decline, including with whites overall, men and voters in small towns.

What's particularly striking is Trump and Biden are now tied with whites at 48%. Trump had a 6-point advantage with the group at the end of June.

To underscore the significance of this, Trump won white voters by 20 points in 2016, and no Democrat has gotten more than 44% of the white vote (incumbent President Bill Clinton in 1996) in a presidential election since 1976.

That year, Carter got 48% of the white vote and won in an electoral landslide, but only by 2 percentage points in the popular vote. Back then, whites made up almost 9 in 10 voters.

In 2016, whites were down to 70% as a share of the electorate, and demographics point to a continuing downward trend.

Neither Trump nor Biden is viewed very favorably, but Trump's score is far worse than Biden's. Just 35% said they have a favorable view of Trump, even less than approve of the job he's doing; 60% have an unfavorable view.

For Biden, 42% had a positive impression, 49% had a negative one.

Notably, Biden leads by 19 points voters who say they dislike both candidates. That's important because in 2016, Trump won voters who said they disliked both Trump and his Democrat Hillary Clinton by 17 points, according to exit polls.

Even though Clinton led for most of 2016 in surveys, the election broke late in Trump's direction because of voters who said they were undecided and said they disliked both candidates.

This poll finds that just 12% are persuadable — either undecided or could change their vote.

The one positive sign for Trump continues to be the strong backing of his supporters. His voters are more enthusiastically behind him than Biden — 76% of them say they strongly support the president versus 64% of Biden's.

A similar three-quarters of Trump supporters say they are casting their ballots in favor of Trump; only 22% said they are voting against Biden. Half of Biden's voters instead say they are casting their ballot against Trump.

The Trump campaign has highlighted similar findings in other surveys, but reelections are about the incumbent president, and the voters who oppose Trump are highly motivated to cast their ballots.

One of the goals of the Democratic National Convention, which begins next week, might be try to drum up more enthusiasm for the ticket, now consisting of Biden and California Sen. Kamala Harris, whom Biden picked to be his running mate this week after this poll was taken.

"The pick of Harris and the Democratic convention could change that," said Lee Miringoff, director of the Marist College Institute for Public Opinion, which conducted the poll. "Certainly, one of the goals of the Democratic convention should be to close this enthusiasm gap for the ticket."

Mailing it in

Half of Americans (50%) now say they will cast their votes in person, up from 38% in May.

Forty-three percent say they will mail in their ballots, down from 50% in May. And there is a big partisan split.

Biden voters mostly say they plan to cast their vote by mail, 62% to 36%.

Trump supporters, though, plan to physically go to the polls — 72% to 24%.

Coronavirus — what to do and not do

American families are hotly debating the right and wrong things to do during the tenuous reopenings during the pandemic.

Well, here are some numbers to settle those arguments. Most Americans think it's largely a good idea to eat outside at restaurants (80%) and have people physically return to work (58%), though to a lesser degree.

They do not, however, think it's a good idea to: allow large groups of people to attend religious, social or sporting events (just 27% in favor), allow children to take part in local or school sports (35%), have students return to school (40%) or open restaurants for people to eat inside (43%).

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The survey of 1,261 U.S. adults, including 1,118 registered voters, was conducted by calling mobile phones and landlines, from Aug. 3 through Aug. 11 by The Marist Poll, in both English and Spanish. The poll has a margin of error of 3.3 percentage points when adults are referenced and 3.6 percentage points for registered voters. The survey was sponsored in partnership with NPR and PBS NewsHour.

: 8/13/20

A previous version of this story incorrectly said that only 22% of potential Joe Biden voters cited support for him as their motivation, as opposed to voting against President Trump. In fact, it is 22% of would-be Trump voters who are motivated to vote against Biden.

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Joe Biden's lead over President Trump has grown nationally, including among some groups that'll be crucial this November. That's according to a new NPR/PBS NewsHour/Marist poll that's out just this morning. It surveyed around 1,300 American adults. NPR politics editor Domenico Montanaro has been looking at the numbers in that poll. Hey, Domenico.

DOMENICO MONTANARO, BYLINE: Good morning.

KING: So how much is Biden leading by?

MONTANARO: You know, he's up now by 11 points. He's leading 53-42 over Trump. At the end of June, it was only an eight-point lead - still, fairly sizable. He's doing well with key groups. He's reached a majority now with independents. He leads Trump by 16 points with them. Trump still retains support from his core base groups. But he's seeing his lead dissipate with white voters, which is key for him.

You know, in 2016, Trump won white voters by 20 points. And in this poll, Trump and Biden are tied with them. And really interesting, Biden is leading among voters who dislike both candidates. That's important because in 2016, the polls shifted in the last week of the race, came down to undecided voters who didn't like either candidate. They broke overwhelmingly for Trump. He won them by 30 points.

KING: Wow.

MONTANARO: In this poll, Biden is winning them by 19, so a 49-point swing.

KING: So let's - super interesting. Let's talk about why that might be happening. This poll looked at what Americans think about how President Trump is handling the coronavirus. And what did it find?

MONTANARO: Well, overall, his approval ratings ticked down to 39%. Americans are saying that they're even more worried about coronavirus. Seventy-one percent now see it as a real threat. That's up from 56% in March. And on who voters would like to see handling it, they said they prefer Biden by 16 points. If Trump hopes to be reelected, he's going to really need to improve on this front because a lot of voters are also saying that they don't really trust what they're hearing from the president. Just 31% said that they think they can trust the information coming from the president. So a lot of Americans are, frankly, tuning them out.

KING: Seventy-one percent of Americans, you mentioned, now see the coronavirus as a real threat. That is remarkable. This poll asked people whether they would get a vaccine for COVID-19 if one was available. And what did they say there?

MONTANARO: Well, we saw 60% said that they will get vaccinated. But, you know, a third - more than a third, 35%, say that they won't get vaccinated when one comes available. There are huge splits by education and party on this. Those with college degrees are 19 points more likely to get vaccinated. Democrats are 23 points more likely to get vaccinated than Republicans. And public health experts have been saying that, you know, they need a big number of people to get vaccinated in order for the country to overcome the pandemic.

KING: All right. So we have the election in November. As you look at these poll results, what do they suggest the campaigns need to focus on, need to prioritize here?

MONTANARO: Well, first of all, like we talked about with coronavirus, President Trump really needs to show he has a better command of what's happening with it. And, you know, he doesn't get very good scores on race relations either. He's not doing well in the suburbs. And he needs to be able to show people who might be able to - who might be open to his message that they think that he's, you know, doing better on that and is more in touch on that issue.

You know, for Democrats, it's all about enthusiasm. Trump supporters say they're primarily casting a ballot for him, while Biden's backers are voting against Trump. Now, this poll was taken before Biden picked California Sen. Kamala Harris as his running mate. So we'll see if that can help the enthusiasm for people to vote more affirmatively for the Democratic ticket than just voting against Trump.

KING: Next poll - we'll find out. NPR's Domenico Montanaro. Thanks, Domenico.

MONTANARO: (Laughter) You're welcome. Transcript provided by NPR, Copyright NPR.